What a blast this conversation was, with Scott Phelan for his podcast On The Roof. He’s quite a character with a wild past and a giant heart of gold. We talk about addiction and the journey of recovery, the crazy thoughts that were driving us along the way, and how sharing and learning from each other is what truly saves us. This is one of those conversations that reminds me how differently we all make sense of ‘the world” yet so much about us, about being human is the same. Thanks Scott, it was a lot of fun

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